To all former MESRA members....

[Ikono]

This is Shoumai. I've bet you've been wondering where i've been these past few weeks... I reformated my computer because it was getting bogged down with a bunch of adware and spyware that Ad-Aware and other software failed to detect and remove. Unfortunately, my modem started going bonkers and always quit after five minutes of restarting the computer.
:banghead:
Eventually I got a new modem, and everything started working out fine... That is, until I tried to install SWG. It got a disk read error within 40% of the installation each and every time I tried to install it. I finally gave up on it, and I am possibly going to start playing WoW. Anyways, I have to quit because of those damn extenuating circumstances... I think this is all a bunch of :bs:

[KJFett]

ouch :( you might try downloading the 14 day free trial, then using your CD code to activate it again...might take a while on a dialup modem tho...

[Nive Halcyon]

Bye Shou :(

Please keep trying to get SWG to work so you can get back in game and resume killing things with us. Read all the new patches and things that are in development, the stress of figuring out how to get SWG to work will be worth it.

[Ikono]

to KJFett: I thought they quit that? I tried that, but couldn't find it anywhere...
And congrats on the jedi Nive :D

[Nive Halcyon]

Thanks :D . The grind is actually going pretty fast so I should be knight by the summer or earlier.

Keep trying!

[Ikono]

Hmm... I took a look at the SWG In Development site... why did the damn CDs have to stop working? :banghead:
Looks to be a much, much better game... or at least going to be...

{EDIT} Damn... I may have to try harder... this looks very promising. When is all of this supposed to be implemented?

Ohh.. love the player events...
and they removed app XP and incresed house limits! If I can get this working, I will be playing both SWG and WoW...

Ooo, vet rewards are nice, I can get the 3, 6 and almost 12 month rewards myself...

[Ikono]

oooo...... Why do installations hate me? I got WoW, but the 2nd disk was defective, so I returned it. I got another copy, and all went well until it got to the 4th disk, where my computer promptly froze. :? I'm trying one last thing before I give up completely....

[KJFett]

SWG is only like 30 bucks at teh store now..you can use teh CDs, and the code, then use your own account info to log on.

[Wilibus]

yah, even if you know someone else who has the discs you just need the CD key to create a new account, not to install the program. I think you may even be able to get it off fileplanet still.

[ModulusOmega]

Maybe it isnt the disks.... Maybe something is wrong with your CD-Rom Drivers. Or it could have crapped out.

[Ikono]

Yeah... I found my CD drive is defunct, so I liberated another drive from my other computer... SWG installed ok, but I won't really play it until the GCW and Combat Revamps get closer to completion. :dance:

[ModulusOmega]

So go play WoW. :)

[Ikono]

Already on it ;)

[Pirahna]

Glad you got your computer up and running ikono :D

Not so glad to see you going to WoW :evil:

Anyhoo My friend gave me a free 10 day pass to WoW, so I might jump on there soon just to see what its like... But noway imgiving up swg :dance:

[ModulusOmega]

WoW gets its claws into you and won't let go!

[Nive Halcyon]

WoW gets its claws into you and won't let go!

Lol not true at all. I got to lvl 20 over winter break, and then I just got bored.

[KJFett]

WoW gets its claws into you and won't let go!

:bs:
We get to kill...

Tusken Raiders with our Lightsabers.....
Ewoks with our Flamethrowers
Rebels with our AT-STs
Towns people with our Rancors
Rancors with our Power Hammers
Krayts with our Rifles

We get to....
Use jetpacks
Ride swoops in Swoop races
FLy in space shooting down...
Xwings, Bwings, Awings and Ywings
Corillian corvettes
any number of freighters
Hunt player jedi
Fight rebel scum
Tell rebel scum that they are Rebel Scum

we get to see....
Dathomir and the Nightsisters
Yavin and the Geonosian weapon complex
Tatooine and the Sarlacc pit, Jabba's palace, Ancient Krayts.....and Boba Fett
Coronet on Corillia
Lok and the Kimogilas
Endor and the Ewoks
Kessel and the black holes nearby....that is an amazing work of art for sure
An Imperial Star Destroyer in Deep Space
A Rebel Frigate near Endor

and we can be......
A Smuggler
A Bounty hunter
A jedi
A Commando
A Weapon Smith
A Droid Engineer
A Creature Handler
A Ranger
A Carbineer
A Dancer
or any mix of these or the other 24 professions

All with StarWars music and Dancers dressed in Exotic Leotards....

and now, with 20+ devs dedicated to making our game even better, and the announcements that have been made showing the new armor, weapons and fix for our Galactic Civil War.......Many of us see the guys that left for EQ2 and WOW coming back.....this is where the action will be. :wink:

Poor WOW and EQ2 dont stand a chance....they will be dealt a blow....just as the Rebels will when the fixes go in and the Galactic Civil War errupts to a furry like never seen before.

Besides....of all the "factions" you could be a member of in all the different games....only SWG lets you be an Imperial, wear Stormtrooper armor...and run missions for Darth Vader and the Emporer. There isn't another faction in any game that beats being able to say you're an Imperial. :twisted:

[Kinetic]

and 8-track tapes are making a comeback too... :wink:

[KJFett]

and 8-track tapes are making a comeback too... :wink:

Maybe in WOW.... :P

[ModulusOmega]

WoW gets its claws into you and won't let go!

:bs:
We get to kill...

Tusken Raiders with our Lightsabers.....
Ewoks with our Flamethrowers
Rebels with our AT-STs
Towns people with our Rancors
Rancors with our Power Hammers
Krayts with our Rifles

We get to....
Use jetpacks
Ride swoops in Swoop races
FLy in space shooting down...
Xwings, Bwings, Awings and Ywings
Corillian corvettes
any number of freighters
Hunt player jedi
Fight rebel scum
Tell rebel scum that they are Rebel Scum

we get to see....
Dathomir and the Nightsisters
Yavin and the Geonosian weapon complex
Tatooine and the Sarlacc pit, Jabba's palace, Ancient Krayts.....and Boba Fett
Coronet on Corillia
Lok and the Kimogilas
Endor and the Ewoks
Kessel and the black holes nearby....that is an amazing work of art for sure
An Imperial Star Destroyer in Deep Space
A Rebel Frigate near Endor

and we can be......
A Smuggler
A Bounty hunter
A jedi
A Commando
A Weapon Smith
A Droid Engineer
A Creature Handler
A Ranger
A Carbineer
A Dancer
or any mix of these or the other 24 professions

All with StarWars music and Dancers dressed in Exotic Leotards....

and now, with 20+ devs dedicated to making our game even better, and the announcements that have been made showing the new armor, weapons and fix for our Galactic Civil War.......Many of us see the guys that left for EQ2 and WOW coming back.....this is where the action will be. :wink:

Poor WOW and EQ2 dont stand a chance....they will be dealt a blow....just as the Rebels will when the fixes go in and the Galactic Civil War errupts to a furry like never seen before.

Besides....of all the "factions" you could be a member of in all the different games....only SWG lets you be an Imperial, wear Stormtrooper armor...and run missions for Darth Vader and the Emporer. There isn't another faction in any game that beats being able to say you're an Imperial. :twisted:

And then you realize:

1) You can shoot through hills.
2) Most professions are broken.
3) You can master most professions in a week.
4) The changing resources sucks.
5) The factional system is broken.
6) Encumberance is retarded.
7) The grind is one of the worst out there.
8) Partying is essentially highlighting the mob and then pressing the same button over and over again.
9) You have 3 health bars.
10) You spend the millions of credits on a Guild Hall and have it disappear.
11) The Bazaar system sucks. C'mon price limits?

I didn't mean to turn it into a flame war, I just mentioned that WoW is pretty addictive, but I felt I had to reply. I cancelled my SWG account almost a year and a half ago. I also beta tested it. The game you are playing right now is how it should have been at launch. These features were all promised to us in early beta. My how things change....

But this is all my opinion. I don't want to cause any further argument.

[KJFett]

And then you realize:

1) You can shoot through hills.
2) Most professions are broken.
3) You can master most professions in a week.
4) The changing resources sucks.
5) The factional system is broken.
6) Encumberance is retarded.
7) The grind is one of the worst out there.
8) Partying is essentially highlighting the mob and then pressing the same button over and over again.
9) You have 3 health bars.
10) You spend the millions of credits on a Guild Hall and have it disappear.
11) The Bazaar system sucks. C'mon price limits?

I didn't mean to turn it into a flame war, I just mentioned that WoW is pretty addictive, but I felt I had to reply. I cancelled my SWG account almost a year and a half ago. I also beta tested it. The game you are playing right now is how it should have been at launch. These features were all promised to us in early beta. My how things change....

But this is all my opinion. I don't want to cause any further argument.

Now now now.....just because what you listed sucked a year ago...doesnt mean its that way now. As I pointed out, we now have 20+ devs working on SWG. There are major changes that have been made in recent months, many huge changes already in the works and more on the way after that. Also, the #s you gave....

1) You can shoot through hills.

This got fixed a LOOOONNNGNGGGG time ago. Line of site was fixed early on and does work....sometimes you will see a shot go throug the top of a hill or wall, but that has to do with lag....your PC sees it go there, but the sever sees it as going over the top of the hill....anyone that has played a FPS online knows what I am talking about there.

2) Most professions are broken.

Most professions are broken? I'll admit..some professions have issues, but to say broken? Every profession has its uses and is missed. Reality is, many of the broken professions were thought to be broken because people didnt do research on them....like Squad Leader..everyone griped about that being broken....in a group know..with the skills they have...I have heard of 2 players and a SL goign up against much larger numbers and doing well....why? because they knew how to use the skills. same goes for all the other professions. Sure smugglers dont smuggle, they slice tho..and sell faction which is big money..and they are getting a whole expansion dedicated to "smugglerish" stuff.

3) You can master most professions in a week.

If you know what you are doing and have all the gear, supplies you need, you can....but that is something a veteran can do...or one with guild support. There isnt a profession in the game that can be mastered in a week if started from scratch with no help and no supplies. The devs fixed alot of stuff to make sure it was more balanced...just ask the Image designers now....

4) The changing resources sucks.

I have to disagee there...and I'm sure every crafter will disagree as well. This gives my goods an advantage over the other crafters if I work hard and get all the best stuff, and it also adds mor to the game for crafters besides just clicking the same thing over and over and getting the same thing everytime and having nothing different to offer people over the next guy.

5) The factional system is broken.

You shoudl read the fixes being made.....this is being so fixed...it boggles the mind....the CGW is going to rock in a very big way.

6) Encumberance is retarded.

Again, huge fixes in the revamp slated for very very soon, and its not really an issue even now as buffs negate any encumbrance from armor. Been that way for over a year now.
7) The grind is one of the worst out there.

I'll have to disagree here as well. There is amply different things to kill out there, and with npcs dropping loot that could be worth big money...and creatures dropping resources that crafters need....there is always a need to be out and improving.

8) Partying is essentially highlighting the mob and then pressing the same button over and over again.

You never fought a Krayt or a Gorax...or visited the Death Watch bunker or any number of other party events have you...doing the same button over and over will get you killed. Even a tank needs to be insuring bleeds are stuck, the target is intimidated, aggro is controled etc etc. As a doctor in a group...I cant use a macro..I run and heal and rez and cure and keep everyone alive. there is nothing that requires me to hit the same button over and over again.

9) You have 3 health bars.

well, technically, only one..the other two are Action and mind bars..again..this is being addressed in the revamp that is laready in testing. The word is that it will be fixed very well and make us all very happy. Not that it is an issue now, and in a way creates a balance that even the best players have a weak spot. So I dont even consider it a huge issue now.

10) You spend the millions of credits on a Guild Hall and have it disappear.

GH cost like 300K - 500K tops...and nothing disappears now anyways..the new system that was put in already stops anyhting from deleting when maint runs out. instead it starts pulling from your bank acocunt..when that gets low, it locks and wont let you in till you have the money to pay the maint...even then, it wont delete.

11) The Bazaar system sucks. C'mon price limits?

If you are not a merchant then yes..price limits...thats why there are merchants. besides..you can sell the high ticket items on the forums and not need a vendor. Also, there are big changes on track to the servers for fixes on the vendor system that will allow us to search all the vendors in the galaxy..even the private ones and buy them from anywhere and they are delivered to us right away...no need to jump around to get them...

also, travel times are down to 1 minute waits for any shuttle or space port. If you have JTL, you can go to any space port from any space port with no wait and no costs.

There have been huge changes made in the game, and many many more on the way. Just because you played it 8 months ago and didnt like it doesnt mean it isn't getting better. In a way, all the changes being made means we will be playing SWG2.

Anyways...not an arguement....just answering the apparent myths that some have in their minds that are not true.

[Ikono]

:shock: Wow... I didn't see this coming... But it is OK that people are defending their respective games :P

As for me playing WoW, I'm only doing so until the cool new revamps approach completion.

I believe that all games have thier respective pros and cons... just some games have more than one :D

I really enjoy the customization of SWG; That has to be the best part of any MMO. The skill progression is also.... damn can't think of the word....

Anyways, WoW is also fun in that you can fight the Horde, and it has more quests to take up your time. But the graphics and models ~could~ be better...

[Nive Halcyon]

Yeah, but it comes to a point in WoW where you are doing these same type of quests over and over, and then you ask yourself why you are doing this. And the answer is so that you can get a +1 on your level, get a little better weapon, a little better skills, and then fight some animals with 1+ the lvl of the animals that you were prevously fighting.